Hunter Kills Mountain Lion South Of Warren

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Courtesy: Arkansas Game and Fish Commission

LITTLE ROCK (KFSM)- A deer hunter shot and killed a mountain lion Saturday (Nov. 8) morning near Hermitage in Bradley County, according to a post on the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission Facebook page.

The mountain lion was a male, weighing 148 pounds.

The last time a mountain lion had been killed in Arkansas was in 1975 in Logan County.

According to the post, the hunter, Douglas W. Ramer, 62, of Bastrop, Louisiana, told wildlife officers, the mountain lion was approaching his deer stand and Ramer felt threatened. Per Arkansas Game and Fish Commission regulations, non-game wildlife, with the exception of migratory birds and endangered species, that present a reasonable threat to people or property may be shot during daylight hours or trapped without a depredation permit.

Ramer, who was hunting on private property, reported the incident to wildlife officers Wednesday (Nov. 12). So far, he has not been charged with violating regulations, but officers are investigating.

The mountain lion carcass was given to Arkansas Game and Fish Commission biologists. Hair from the animal will be sent to a laboratory in Montana for DNA testing, which can often show an animal’s area of birth.

Mountain lions, which are also known as pumas and cougars, lived throughout Arkansas until about 1920. The Arkansas Game and Fish Commission offered bounties and hired trappers to control predator populations between 1927 and 1929. More than 250 wolves and 420 bobcats were killed, but no mountain lions were brought in.

There have been five confirmed sightings of mountain lions in Arkansas in the last five years, although a breeding population has not been verified.

“I would expect, over the course of the next several years, that we’ll be seeing more mountain lions in the state,” said Myron Means of the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission. “Over the past decade, the Missouri Department of Conservation has seen an increase in mountain lion sightings and I would expect Arkansas will probably follow suit.”

A few mountain lion sightings have also been reported in Oklahoma and Louisiana in recent years.

12 comments

  • Carl Fox

    The cat was in your vicinity because he was following the deer on the trail you set your deer stand on! I think you saw a opportunity to get a trophy to stuff and took the shot! Your not even from Arkansas and you killed an animal that hasn’t been seen since 1975. I hope you feel proud of yourself!

  • scott

    Excuse me if I seen a Mt lion near my tree stand I would have shot him too do u realize they can climb trees and of course how do u know is gone by the time u come down??

    • Bobby

      And they can jump up to 35 feet I agree with you Scott.I’ve had one watching me for hours while I was hunting.when I stood up to leave he stood up too. Fortunately for me he was about 20 yards away and ran when I fired a shot in the air.

  • pat

    We saw one on Phoenix close to the ft smith Airport a few years ago. There are a lot of dear in that area as was well.

    • arnold fudpucker

      Have had a fellow tell me they have seen one off Massard near the creek bridge. This was someone who would know what they saw.

  • Lynley

    Trophy hu?? Is that why he donated it to research?Makes total sense… I’ll bet you buy your meat from the store bc its less hurtful to the animal. ;-)

    Go ahead and “think” but this cat could have been tracking him as easily as a deer. I hope he feels blessed bc he is here and that is more important then hearing about a hunter being mauled by a big cat. The debate on “if” there are big cats is over. We now have proof and the public will be educated on safety from a place of respect and not fear. FYI Big cats have been in Arkansas for a long time, until now the AG&F denied their presence in the state. It is not as if the first one to come trotting into the state was murdered. Educate your self before you “think”!

    • Stacy

      We got a picture of a mountain lion on a game camera about 6 years ago. I showed it to the game warden in our area and he said mountain lions do not exist in Arkansas unless it was a pet that got loose and he said Oklahoma has mountain lions but not our area. We live on the AR/OK state line and I guess it’s impossible for a mountain lion to cross state lines. The game warden actually said it was a bobcat not a mountain lion. The long slender body and the long tail that drug the ground in the picture definitely says it’s a mountain lion NOT a bobcat. Mountain lions are far more common than they will ever admit publicly. Living in the country you will definitely see one.

  • TurnHerOverDrive

    What most people may not know, mountain lions are an endangered species and are protected. If Arkansas admits there are mountain lions here, they have to spend the money to protect them. To comment on Carl Fox’s post above, A mountain lion has not been seen ‘officially’ since 1975. Unofficially, their seen all over Arkansas. I have unofficially saw one on a few occasions in my back pasture. Once we were fishing and a deer ran up over our pond bank and into the water. And guess what was right behind it that did not follow it into the water? You guessed it! We have a large (5 acre) pond and the mountain lion ran around the pond bank toward the other side but ran off. The deer survived.

    • Concerned for all

      I liked you last line, even though you didn’t finish the sentence.
      I don’t think we should kill those cats….unless anyone is in danger. The law seems to say that if it is endangered you STILL can’t legally shoot it. Did I read that right?

      • TurnHerOverDrive

        Shoot what? They don’t exist in Arkansas. Officially. Technically there should be no law here. But I would imagine in other parts of the country with laws, a person has the right to protect themselves and anything they own. I have no problems with a mountain lion unless they start killing livestock, dogs or threatening us. I do worry about my 15 year old daughter that sometimes has to stand in the dark at 6:40 in the am waiting on the school bus.

  • Keith

    I’m in NW Arkansas 5 miles from MO line. On 11-7-11 i had a mountain lion attack 4 of my goats in the pen not more than 50′ out my back door late one night. I heard the goats cry so I ran out the back door just in time to see the cat run full speed into the cattle panel pen & bend the corner up on his way out. 2 died instantly from their throats being slashed ear to ear & i had to shoot the other 2 because they were to far gone to save. I camped out in the yard for several nights with the spotlight & rifle. It never came back. Just days later I saw a video from a friend who lives 3 miles north as the crow flies. He recorded the cat in broad day light rolling in the sun in his back yard.

  • me and my ebola

    This idiot needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Why did he wait 4 days to report it? One can only wonder how much evidence he destroyed during those days and how much time he had to devise a fake story

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