Arizona Sen. Files Bill To Make Church Attendance Mandatory

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ARIZONA (KHPO) – Each year a few bills get proposed at the state Capitol that have people shaking their heads.

This year: Mandatory church attendance.

An Arizona state senator thinks it is a good idea for the American people.

State Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake, brought it up during a committee meeting Tuesday while lawmakers were debating a gun bill, not religion.

Allen explained that without a “moral rebirth” in the country, more people may feel the need to carry a weapon.

“I believe what’s happening to our country is that there’s a moral erosion of the soul of America,” she said.

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38 comments

  • Feedman

    How about Westboro Baptist? Is that on the approved list of “churches” a citizen could choose to be compliant with said “law”?

    • Feedman

      Or maybe I could become a follower of David Koresh. How about I attend Trinity United Methodist Church and learn the teachings of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, you know, the one who said “GOD D#$@ AMERICA! Even the Rev. Jim Jones had quite a large flock of congregants until he served up the kool-aid. Does attending a Muslim Shrine count?

  • December

    I do of course think she is an idiot for even mentioning it (especially since athiests only make up .07% of the prison population indicating that crime is not due to lack of religion), but this title is sensationalist and irresponsible. There was no bill filled, she simply suggested it.

    • Warbo

      .07% is sketchy at best. for a long time it was reported at .2% but people who like to tout the .07% number claim that that number wasn’t very good but don’t have anything to show that .07% is any more accurate. A few things to consider:

      First, it’s a small sample. Easily less than 5% of prisoners.
      Second, it’s self-identification, which is hard to trust, especially among a prison population where participants may not feel their privacy is going to be respected, and may even feel that identifying as Atheist could have unwanted repercussions.
      Third, there were about 17% of participants who didn’t identify. Granted technically, you could say that these could go either way, but I don’t think that’s very realistic. People who have a religion usually aren’t shy about it, whereas someone who isn’t religious would most likely leave the question blank, feeling it doesn’t apply to them or not wanting even identify under the Atheist label. If you’re looking at it realistically, you would have to assume that most of those 17% are Atheist. Ultimately that would leave them somewhat over-represented in prisons.

      The best case you could make for Atheism on your .07% statistic is that it’s not remotely clear how many prisoners are Atheists.

      • Steven Urdegar (@readingwarrior1)

        By looking at prisoners you are skewing your results before even getting into the correlation causality debate. Even though around 85% of Americans are people of faith, there are plenty of God fearing folks who wouldn’t hesitate to rob you blind if they could get away with it. Morality, citizenship, and ethic, all part of a social contract have little to do with religion.

    • Amanda

      I was going to say the same thing! There is no bill, it was just an offhand comment. A stupid one, but still not a serious suggestion.

  • Fed Up

    So the bill is filed, and eventually passes. If I don’t abide by the law and attend church, what will they do, hang me? Arizona pays their representatives well, and this ‘snowflake’ from Snowflake wastes time during a committee meeting to bring this up is ludicrous.

  • Warbo

    Really deceptive reporting. Not surprising—just about every outlet reporting on this is twisting it a little, but this one is surprisingly blatant. There was no bill filed, it was just an offhand comment. She doesn’t even really want such a bill, she was just expressing her view that when religion was more accepted and more important to people, people generally behaved better. She may be right, may be wrong, but I think she’s still entitled to her observation.

  • Mark Brown

    A church of your choice… so any church and any religion or is she saying a Christian church?? What about freedom of religion? She’s a nut case and has the IQ of a pumpkin seed…

  • WHATAJOKE

    This nut needs professional help. Good luck trying to force me into any church it’s religion of all kinds that have kept this planet in turmoil and cost the lives of billions. Republicans are a disgrace and getting worse. I hope these wackos keep it up so a Democrat will have a cake walk into the White House.
    5 News will more than likely take down my comment which will also prove my point.
    What we really need is a Atheist as President because that person will make decisions based on reality not myth and fiction.
    What do you Thumpers think of that ?

      • 86ands--tarethesame

        Typical Republican, agent 86 thanks for proving What a Jokes point. Now that we have lowered ourselves into the Republican sewer and use name calling I will say this too you, F— You !

      • Too Da Loo

        Hey agent86 shouldn’t that be name instead of ” names “, that’s the problem with ignorant republican scum they are too stupid to get it right.

      • Too Da Loo

        86 I know you are but what am I, sticks and stones may break my bones but a ignorant republican never will.
        You are what you eat, man you must stink.

    • Steven Urdegar (@readingwarrior1)

      I agree with you 100%, but any politician who said as much would be ruined. That’s because “people of faith” vote and faith requires suspension of disbelief as no one can prove the existence of God. If they’re willing to accept God on faith there is no limit to what they’ll accept when told by the right person – Joel Osteen comes to mind. Ending the tax exemption for religious institutions would quietly cripple them.

  • Agent 86

    There is indeed an erosion of morality thanks to liberalism. Church is not the answer though. Mass extradition of all liberals to the Middle East would be more ideal.

  • waste of time

    I attend church and wish all people did but I’m also for freedom to choose and would never want the government to force people to attend. This women is a perfect example of what a worthless bunch we have at local, state and federal levels. All they do is waste time brining up proposed bills or actually voting or worthless bills instead of getting anything done. They think that standing around blowing hot air is what they were elected to do.

  • Too Da Loo

    Why do Thumpers like 86, mark and others call people names that don’t believe in their delusions ? Is it that they are afraid we might be right about Thumper nonsense ? Turn the other cheek boys !

  • not the mama

    I consider myself a Christian, but I never go to church, I do my praying at my home and wish that legislators would keep their noses out of my religion, also I feel that we shouldn’t make laws to force religion on people, or to use religion to promote laws of hate or discrimination in the name of our Lord!

  • You proved the point

    Agent 86,
    You proved the point perfectly. You proved why the conservative mentality never really succeeds. Your comment that liberals should be sent to the Middle East only shows your blatant lack of respect for what the principles of this country was founded. Freedom. And closed minded people like yourself that have the “it is my way, or the highway” attitude only proves that you are the one that does not belong here. You may not like their comments, but they are your brothers and sisters. They are your fellow countrymen and women. You certainly have missed the boat.

    • Too Da Loo

      Point,
      I wonder if our old buddy 86 would be so mouthy if the person he was insulting and attacking was standing in front of him, I doubt it don’t you? 86 wouldn’t have this forum to hide behind and would be on his own without his mamma to protect him. I am sure everyone that knows 86 regrets it including his family. I will say we need trolls like 86, it gives us something to laugh about. Everybody needs a little humor in their lives and 86 fits the bill, have a good day Point.

  • reeync

    This is yellow journalism…plain ol’ sensationalism. It’s as bad, in terms of stirring up mob mentality, as Allen’s original comment. Granted, Sylvia Allen is a nut job and has no business representing the people of an entire state, but no bill was filed. Clearly, her idea violates the First Amendment’s freedom of religion clause. (Not to be confused with Gov. Pence’s recent bigoted and unChristian “Religion Freedom” law)

  • MAXWELL SMART

    I go by MAXWELL SMART and I have been very hatefull and obnoxious in my comments, they have been mean spirited, insulting and hateful but not anymore. I have been reminded by another commentor that you really are what you eat and i have eaten a lot of Republican radical nonsense. Not anymore I am a changed person and will try to do right by the Democrats and their beliefs. Now on to new ways of thinking, I thank my fellow Democrats for pointing it out to me.

  • just another guy

    What a laugh…religious bigotry at its finest. I am not religious, nor do I consider myself atheist. But that doesn’t mean I am lacking in a sense of morality. Some of the most vile and heinous atrocities were brought about by religion. I am what I call a non-theist naturalist. The only church like or religious experience for me is to sit in the serenity of nature itself, to be engulfed by the sounds, smells and general ambience that it offers. People shouldn’t need religion or fear of eternal damnation to act morally. And this idea that church should be mandatory is sickening, if anything it will allow christianity to further stunt the growth of humanity as a whole, and worse, it could cause more hatred and war in God’s name. I think this whole thing is childish and repulsive. But I digress, life is too short to fixate on nonsense like this.

  • Bob Jacobson

    The moral rebirth would more properly start in the State Capitol, where legislators — too dignified a term for these poltroons — trade away votes for campaign funding and even threaten to subvert our State Constitution in the service of extreme rightwing religionists. But of course, the Republicans behind these schemes have so thoroughly gerrymandered AZ, another of their “moral” acts — depriving voters of influence in the Capitol vs. lobbyists who gild their lilies — that no democratic force exists to countermand such intentionally hurtful foolishness. What a travesty AZ politics have become.

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